[BMR Automotive]

Hi,
We are due for another high fuel taxation rise in September this year, just when industry and private individuals are feeling the strain of our financial problems so we have to ask ourselves have we got enough drive and feeling to restart our protest actions? If we start to gain enough momentum across the UK I am still up for becoming the East Midlands co-ordinator how about anyone else? We dont have to carry out rolling go slows, we need to inform and educate people about how much our lives depend on Road Transport of all forms cycles, motorbikes, cars, vans, trucks and busses (although busses dont pay Fuel Tax - they also dont go anywhere I need to go so are useless). Lets have a few hands

WE ARE BEING DISSMISSED AS WE DONT SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH.

[BMR Automotive]

sounds likeyou are all happy to pay extra money to the government to bail out the likes of the top bankers, well at least I tried and can sleep at night.

[scanny]

i made this global Brian because i have had people come to me on facebook asking about protests. i am trying to gauge interest and i request that all who read this thread do the same. there is a thread about protests on a truckers forum and while i would like to involve them, i am looking at ways to include everyone this time, not just motorists and certainly not exclusively truckers. although i am still a trucker myself, i am not representing them for any future protest that we achieve. i am standing as a citizen!
with the current financial climate at a personal level, i would suggest that we avoid vehicle based protests this time. lets keep the costs down for all involved and try to encompass as many people as we can and we do it on foot at local levels. if we can get 100 people to protest in 100 towns across the UK it may not make much news in terms of turnout but it will grab media and therefore government attention. the last thing the government want right now is yet more attention so lets go for it. use bebo, facebook, myspace, forums or whatever outlet you have available, even handing out leaflets in your street or local tesco to get support. fuel prices affects food prices so lets get that message out and let people know that there is no escape from the effects of fuel duty. it hits everyone in the pocket!

[scanny]

a 2 hour drive to carlisle provides some thinking time without the distraction of mafia wars on facebook so here is what i have come up with:

we hold peaceful protests on foot and we hit every constituency office in the UK on november 5th. these bastards spent our money and they want us to replenish the coffers for them but i say its their mess so they can clean it up. taxing us more when people are losing jobs is unfair, unethical and since we are working to pay taxes, is slavery! we need to get the message out there that fuel tax and duty does affect everyone through consumer spending plus the fuel itself and we need to stand together and say enough is enough. they get everything paid for but we dont and we cant keep bailing them out.
i suggest we call this a consumer protest group rather than categorising it as truckers, motorists or any other group that alienates some people from joining. we need to keep this one open to anyone and everyone and we need to welcome support from everyone. if you have other groups that you wish to promote then you do it unofficially and without my knowledge or approval. this is not about any political parties as they are all guilty of wasting our money so i do not wish to see any party colours present and i will not tolerate any trouble. if anyone smashes a window at my venue i will hand them over to the police myself. we do not want to give them any excuses to cause problems for us and if i am leading this i do not want anyone bringing my name into disrepute. we do this peacefully and legally or not at all.

[Phil123]

im new here.. i like wat ur doing but this forum clearly isnt growing or being used to its potential.

Sad as it may seem, facebook is the way forward with this kind of thing,

Add clubs on there to a group and get them 2 invite all of their friends, then this protest could take off and have a decent impact on the money we pay!

thanks

[scanny]

thanks for that Phil. if you click on the link at the very bottom of my signature it will take you to the new facebook group i set up a couple of days ago. this will remain as the main site but i am happy to use facebook too. restricting people to one website would be defeating the principle of opening up accessiblity on this one. my one concern about facebook is the fact that there are reports of them shutting groups down and they are less political than this one. thats why i will be using this as the main website and using facebook to duplicate information and hold discussions which i may well copy to here as back up. what i dont want is to waste anyones time and relying solely on facebook may well do that. if they do pull the group down then there is always this site for people to find the same information

[scanny]

the date is under review. parliament shuts down in november so december or january will mean more MPs in their own constituencies which is where i want to stage these protests. i am looking for politically aware or active people at each location to counter anything that the MP says. their election could be thwarted by this protest so lets help that happen. they will be answering directly to the people who will be voting for or against them so lets make it as uncomfortable as we can. that includes inviting local press to attend and report on the protest rather than national press

[Quilp]

we hold peaceful protests on foot and we hit every constituency office in the UK on november 5th. these bastards spent our money and they want us to replenish the coffers for them but i say its their mess so they can clean it up.

You're right, it's their mess, but they won't pay, so it becomes ours. One way or the other, right or wrong, those stinking bankers in London have saddled the rest of us with their debts. It sucks, doesn't it?

we need to get the message out there that fuel tax and duty does affect everyone through consumer spending plus the fuel itself and we need to stand together and say enough is enough. they get everything paid for but we dont and we cant keep bailing them out.

You're right. They need their heads banging together (metaphorically at least, although I'd like to take it a lot further). The best way out for Wales and Scotland is to stay in Europe but go independent, and leave their share of the debts in London, England.